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Hinduism

Tradition·Founding date unrecorded·est. ~1.2 billion worldwide

Vedic Religion → Hinduism → 8 branches

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Story of Hinduism

Salt in the water.

The father tells the son to dissolve salt in water overnight and then find it. He cannot, but it is in every mouthful, top and bottom. That is the setup for the sentence Advaita has been arguing from ever since.

Where it is toldThe Chandogya Upanishad, sixth chapter
Who appearsUddalaka Aruni and his son Shvetaketu
What it teachesThat the invisible thing holding the world together is the same thing you are
Understanding it — context, not catechism: how this passage is held

The sixth chapter of the Chandogya is a father teaching a son who has come home from twelve years of study insufferably pleased with himself, and the father's opening move is to ask whether he learned the teaching by which the unheard becomes heard. He then runs a series of demonstrations: fruit cut open to a seed and the seed cut open to nothing; a tree cut and still living; salt dissolved into water. Each ends with the same refrain, that the subtle essence is the self of all this, and you are that. Shankara built Advaita on the sentence and reads it as a flat statement of identity. Ramanuja reads it as predication of a qualified whole. Madhva, remarkably, reads the Sanskrit as sa atmā tat tvam asi and gets you are not that — a reading almost nobody outside his school accepts, and a good illustration of how much of Indian theology is grammar under pressure.

From the sources — the passages this rests on; concise renderings, cited

That which is the subtlest essence — this whole world has it for its self. That is the real. That is the self. You are that, Shvetaketu.

Chandogya Upanishad 6.8.7 (rendered)

Repeated nine times in the chapter, and read three incompatible ways by three schools of Vedanta.

The same ground, other faiths

claims that share this one's ideas
V Vairocana — the cosmic buddha. Buddhism · figure Meet them →
K Kundakunda. Jainism · figure Meet them →
God contracted to make room for the world. Judaism · core tenet Go deeper →
Fana. Islam · the interior Go deeper →
What you are is not the body, and it goes back to the Source. The Order of the Solar Temple · core tenet Go deeper →
The Force is real and it is not a person. Jediism · core tenet Go deeper →

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