The presence — assurance to fire.
From the quiet inner witness Wesley described to Pentecost's flame: the felt side of grace, differently weighted in every stream.
Christian experience runs an enormous range and each end distrusts the other. Reformed traditions emphasize assurance — a quiet, evidenced confidence in one's standing — and are wary of ecstasy; Pentecostal and charismatic traditions expect the Spirit to be felt, and speak in tongues; contemplative traditions in Catholicism and Orthodoxy map a long, structured ascent, including the dark night in which felt presence is withdrawn as part of the process. The shared claim is that God is encountered rather than merely believed, with the tradition's discernment rules serving to test what is encountered.
The same ground, other faiths
claims that share this one's ideasSign in to open the first thread. Everything here is attributed.
