Nobody says out loud that they are saved.
Assurance of salvation is heard as presumption about God's verdict. The Amish speak of a living hope instead, and an Amish-raised person who joins an evangelical church and announces they are saved is one of the most common causes of a family breach.
Assurance is where the plain churches and evangelical Protestantism split most audibly. To an Amish ear, saying I know I am saved claims a verdict that only God will give, and claiming it is the precise sin — Hochmut — that the whole ethic exists to suppress. The usual formulation is a living hope, from 1 Peter 1:3. This is not a marginal quarrel: the largest single cause of people leaving Old Order districts since the 1950s has been contact with revivalist or evangelical preaching, and it produced the New Order Amish in 1966, who kept the buggy and the plain dress but permit talk of assurance. Families are split by it now, in the present tense, and the bishops on both sides regard the split as unhealed.
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