Predestination

Idea·held in 6 faiths·across 4 families·7 passages

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What it means here

our wording, so the faiths below can be compared — never any tradition's own definition

The outcome was settled before you arrived; sovereignty runs all the way down.

Every passage on this page is one faith's own phrasing. Sharing an idea is not agreement: Christianity and Stoicism are both here because each says something this word covers, and what they say may flatly contradict each other. The idea is the place they can be set side by side.

Travels across4 of 52 families in the tree
Oldest holderStoicism · c. 301 BCE
Newest holderPresbyterianism · 1560 CE
Turns up as6 tenets · 1 figure

Where it turns up

every faith that holds it, by founding date — time is half real and half rank order, because a straight axis crushes three millennia against the left wall. Hover a dot for the faith.
Judaism 3 Cynicism 1 Islam 1 Sikhism 1

4 of 52 families in the tree carry it; the rest are silent on it, or we have not written them out far enough to know.

Across the faiths

one family at a time, and every family speaks before any family speaks twice — 6 of 171 faiths
Judaism — 3 faiths of this family hold it
Christianity 30 CE · God became human, died under empire, and did not stay dead. Enter →
A Augustine of Hippo — the North African who set the terms. A bishop in what is now Algeria whose arguments about grace, will and sin became the operating system of Western Christianity. The Reformation was largely Augustine against Augustine; Calvin quoted him constantly, and so did the Council of Trent. Domain Grace, sin, the will, memory, time, and the two citiesStanding A doctor of the Latin church and a saint in the Greek one; the Reformation and its opponents both fought using his sentences Meet them — context & 1 source →
Calvinism (the Reformed tradition) 1536 CE · Grace chooses first — sovereignty all the way down. Enter →
God is sovereign — entirely. Nothing, including your salvation, begins with you. History is authored, not improvised. Go deeper — context →
Grace is unconditional. Chosen before the foundation of the world: election rests on God's will, not foreseen merit. Go deeper — context →
Presbyterianism 1560 CE · The church governed by elders, reformed by the Word. Enter →
God's sovereignty orders all things. The Calvinist inheritance held firm — election, providence, and the comfort both give. Go deeper — context →
Cynicism — one faith of this family holds it
Stoicism c. 301 BCE · Two handles on everything; take the one you can hold. Enter →
Some things are up to us; most are not. Judgement, impulse, desire and refusal are ours. Body, property, reputation and office are not, and treating them as if they were is the whole of what goes wrong. Go deeper — context →
Islam — one faith of this family holds it
Islam 610 CE · There is no god but God — and life is submission to that fact. Enter →
God decreed it, and you will answer for it. Both halves are asserted, and reconciling them is the oldest fight in Islamic theology. The Ash'ari answer is kasb — God creates the act, the human acquires it. The Mu'tazila and the Twelver Shia rejected that as making God the author of injustice, and hold human acts genuinely free. ⚖ contested within Go deeper — context →
Sikhism — one faith of this family holds it
Sikhism 1499 CE · One God beyond form; all people equal before it. Enter →
Everything runs under hukam. The second stanza of Japji states it flatly: everything is inside the command, and nothing is outside it. Hukam is not a sentence handed down but the order the world is already running on — the Sikh task is to read it and stop arguing with it. Go deeper — context & 1 source →

Where it is argued

passages a tradition marks as contested inside itself — the disagreement is theirs, not ours
God decreed it, and you will answer for it. Both halves are asserted, and reconciling them is the oldest fight in Islamic theology. The Ash'ari answer is kasb — God creates the act, the human acquires it. The Mu'tazila and the Twelver Shia rejected that as making God the author of injustice, and hold human acts genuinely free. Go deeper — context →

Travels with

where predestination appears, these tend to appear beside it — counted off the passages they share All ideas →
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